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Douglas

Qualified feminsm. ("moderate feminism" "ifeminism" NAFALT "feminist but.." etc.)

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In a previous blog, I wrote about the distinction between feminism and women and why many women think they are feminists but are wrong. Here I address those who want to use the feminist label for meaning something good, often re-defining feminism in the process to something like "radical feminism" even though hardly anyone self-identifies as a radical feminist - they just call themselves a feminist.

I believe it is both incorrect and unhelpful for the plight of men to group females and feminists together and blame all women for feminism (and, by implication, not blame any men). That said, I encourage anyone - male and female - to distance themselves from concepts like "feminism" and "feminist" as much as possible unless you believe in female supremacy and have a distaste of men and masculinity.

I encourage you not to call yourself any kind of "feminist" unless you believe in the social illness that is feminism. Claiming that not all feminists are like that (NAFALT) may be true in specific cases but the reality of feminism is seen by its overall actions, not by any one individual.

Among the reasons to avoid the feminist label unless you are an unqualified feminist are:
1) To achieve balance and fairness/egalitarianism in society, we have to undo all that feminism has brought upon our society (note: that is not undoing suffrage, nor equal pay, nor...). To be able to quickly undo everything that can be associated with feminism, it is important not to muddy what feminism is by using the same word for any other purpose.
2) To those aware of the misandry and social damage caused by feminist ideology, there is a psychological effect on someone saying they are feminist. This can be seen all over forums such as Anti-misandry and Stand Your Ground when people say they are a "feminist but..." or a "moderate feminist" or an "ifeminist". It's not that people can't read, nor that they consciously ignore the qualification of feminism. But the emotional effect and the mental association with a damaging policy is made first, before any consideration of what might be before or after "feminist."
3) If someone doesn't believe in at least some of the reality of feminism they have no need to associate with it at all. It is not in any way important that they believe in what feminists have sometimes claimed about feminism: if someone really is aware of what feminism is and disagrees with it, then they should also be aware that it has achieved its ends by lying.
4) I've yet to find any variant of feminism that doesn't centre around the claim of "looking after women's interests." It's true that caring for women is important but why not also for men? Why is a woman's suffering more or less important than a man's? (If people on this site, in campaigning for men's rights and fairness for men, completely ignore women's suffering and do not care about suffering regardless of gender, they will fall into the feminist-conceived gender war.) While being aware of the gender inequalities around us, our campaigns should always focus on the rights of everyone in society, regardless of race, creed, colour or gender. It is gynocentric activities that lead to matters like disaster relief only giving food to women and letting men starve. Only in matters only pertaining to women - such as childbirth - can there be a real reason to concentrate only on women's issues.
In conclusion, unless you really are suffering from having feminist beliefs, don't call yourself any kind of a feminist. If you're not sure, or you think that maybe you are suffering from feminism and are seeking help, then places like the Anti-Misandry web site can be a good place to help you understand about feminism and may be a first step to the cure. In the meantime, if you call yourself a feminist of any colour, you'll have to accept the natural and automatic "anti" levelled on any kind of feminist.

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  1. Lady Catherine's Avatar
    I understand the issue with me being an ifeminist and the suspicion it causes. However, I think gender issues are a bit more complicated than "teh womenz are oppressed!!" or "teh menz are oppressed!!"

    My position is thusly, both genders have problems facing them and here's my libertarian perspective.

    Things like abortion(I am personally pro-life but politically pro-choice) and access to birth control for example are very important issues for me. The Religious Right would like to ban said things, as an ifeminist I oppose that.

    But things like unfair divorce laws or laws like VAWA are unfair to men and violate many principles I hold dear. As a MRA I oppose them.

    To summarize my views on the issues:

    Violence: It's a serious issue irregardless of gender. As long as people don't violate the NAP(non-aggression principle) then they are free to do what ever they choose. Any one who violates that principle should rightly be punished in an equitable way.

    Sex Positivity: I promote sex-positive thinking. I support the legalization of prostitution and the support of other sex-workers. I'm pro-BDSM, pro-porn, and well pro-safe, sane, and consensual sexual expression. I do not think men are creeps for having sexual needs and I don't think women are sluts for having sexual needs.

    Reproductive/Parental Rights: I support research for a male birth-control pill, choice for men, safe abortion, and the whole shebang. I believe that the best way to get something fair and just for custody, is the enforcement of legal contracts.

    Rape: I believe that men can be victims too, and I support laws that better protect men. As for false rape accusations, this not only destroys innocent men it hurts the victims of real rape too.

    I think that's a pretty good summary on my views.
  2. Douglas's Avatar
    I absolutely agree with you about gender issues not being simple (and I also hate that kind of language).

    Catherine, why do you say "...as an ifeminist I oppose that." Is this because you are firstly determined to be an ifeminist and therefore willing to accept that what ifeminism holds true, you do too? (This is not a criticism, I understand fully the principle of needing to support all of a political body you are a member of, rather than cause fractures in that body by open dissent.) If it is not that, then why do you not simply state "...I oppose that."

    It sounds like you feel that polarisation of social issues along gender lines is worthwhile. For me, as I have said, I think that segmenting them in that way is usually pointless and often damaging.
  3. Bmiricle's Avatar
    Another good entry Douglas. I see feminism as just that. Female, feminine, woman, etc. So when it's brought to light as a one-sided gender-based agenda it throws the common perception of what the "moderates" and so on and so forth base their case off of.

    I had the conversation before with my friendly local feminist about the qualifier for feminism or being a feminist. I inquired as to why you would want to be classified as such when you don't seem to hold the same standard of empowering women above and beyond that of man. The response to said inquiry was that it isn't her job to change what she labels herself and that the "radical" or "extreme" qualifier is what should be looked for when comparing different degrees of feminism.

    Well hell. It's not my job either. Just as you've stated time and time again Doug; It's a matter of precedent, the precedent is set in the way society goes about itself. Women first, men, children, and family last.

    Who brought this one-sided and bias way of thinking about? It wasn't as if there were a conference of men and women who got together and said "Yeah, lets do that, screw the guy in divorce, take his children, and run him to poverty."
    Updated 22nd-January-2011 at 01:34 PM by Bmiricle
  4. haute macabre's Avatar
    Women should also remember, that you don't have to be a feminist to be empowered.

    Empowering for me is being a proud feminine lady , to be with a man that loves me and respects me as a lady, to earn respect by working hard in life and helping men still have faith that there are still women that do care. I don't need feminism to be a strong lady. I am strong through my faith in God, the example of my amazing parents and me getting through personal struggles.

    Be empowered by NOT being a feminist!
  5. Lady Catherine's Avatar
    @Douglas
    I think of it this way: ifeminism is female advocacy and the MRM is male advocacy. I can claim to be both because I advocate for both. Also note that I generally don't agree with everything in both movements. And in some cases I have views that aren't shared by either movement. The use of a label just helps with a brief summary of what I find agreeable.

    I'm working on a blog post dealing with the points you raise.