Quote from Glenn's Cult:

Don't think this is the only place I have seen you - I am EVERYWHERE - NO GROUP, FORUM, OR BLOG IS SAFE. In fact WE are everywhere.

And from Anonymums:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrIkKIH-VMA"]YouTube- Anonymums Message to The Family Court and The Fathers Lobby[/ame]

Yes these people are freaks and we all have to watch out. They are fanatics and they are deadly serious about doing any kind of damage they can to any MRA.

Jezus... Those guys almost come over as a bunch of illuminati freaks determined to do anything they can to stop the demise of feminism through demolition in father's rights groups.

Quote from Nynrah Ghost

Jezus... Those guys almost come over as a bunch of illuminati freaks determined to do anything they can to stop the demise of feminism through demolition in father's rights groups.

Make no mistake, that is exactly what they are.

Quote from rohara

Make no mistake, that is exactly what they are.

Yeah... this just shows that we ought to watch out backs and be carefull with whom we associate. Especially the father's rights lobbies.

Claudine Dombrowski is an extremely proliphic blogger reminds me of the countess.

And so many feel that the other side doesn't have a bigger goal behind the feminists! Bloody amazing.

In that video you can see they are giving up on any kind of swaying people in the grey zone of this issue. They want to scare softs MRAs from taking part, scare neutral moderates from taking part, tick off Hard MRAs to get them to go more extreme and get radcial feminists to use extreme language and call for extreme laws.

What a totally sick and evil video. The only real goal of such a video is very short term (2 years worth), as it will hold the radical feminists in their place for a year or two. The NWO is feeling the pressure of men's rights and needs feminism more than anyone else does. Expect more such evil junk in the future as they are very desperate now.

Perhaps we should kit out Zuberi with a robotic arm and a bionic eye and send him back in time to visit Dombrowski's mum.

Davyone has had a visit from one stalker already and so have I. 'Mary Kate' from Brisbane. I have had several 'outings' from her and 'Hattie', naming me and Cj and labelling me as a 'woman-hater'.

Me !!

Crikey, some MRAs say I like women too much !!

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Davyone has had a visit from one stalker already and so have I. 'Mary Kate' from Brisbane. I have had several 'outings' from her and 'Hattie', naming me and Cj and labelling me as a 'woman-hater'. !

Whiners!

I had the 'Womyn's Studies / Center' Staff from UC-BS (University of California at Goleta - in Santa Barbara County) Secretly Stalking me back in the late 1980s...

- and I mean real ones, with badges and guns secretly contacting my employers demanding I be silenced and punished for the Thought Crime of daring to attend open public lectures by radical Misandrists on campus and "Asking Loaded Questions" during the follow up public Q&A.

This is just a 'logical' progression of Womyn's Justice - and you should just get over it - preferably by rolling on your backs and peeing yourselves in shame for being born with a penis!

As if that wasn't obvious from the start.

Sheesh!

Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

Quote from Percy

Perhaps we should kit out Zuberi with a robotic arm and a bionic eye and send him back in time to visit Dombrowski's mum.

Davyone has had a visit from one stalker already and so have I. 'Mary Kate' from Brisbane. I have had several 'outings' from her and 'Hattie', naming me and Cj and labelling me as a 'woman-hater'.

Me !!

Crikey, some MRAs say I like women too much !!

What we have here is a group of anti male psychopaths who want us silenced for telling the truth! Denial of truth and reality are sure fire signs of a lunatic!
These nutcases are howling in terror because feminism is dying faster then they can say ouch!
Those anti male trollops can keep squealing and lying but it won't change anything.
The biggest threat to a thief and a liar, is the truth!
That's why they hate us so much!
They lie as easy as they fart and the truth to them is like dousing a slug with salt!

Percy, ty for the smile, Timocrat was that a tongue in check thought about Fathers Lobbies?

Quote from Percy

Perhaps we should kit out Zuberi with a robotic arm and a bionic eye and send him back in time to visit Dombrowski's mum.

Davyone has had a visit from one stalker already and so have I. 'Mary Kate' from Brisbane. I have had several 'outings' from her and 'Hattie', naming me and Cj and labelling me as a 'woman-hater'.

Me !!

Crikey, some MRAs say I like women too much !!

Trying to reasonable and fair to all people will often get you hated by extremists on all sides. I know the feeling. I figure having bitter, nasty people from across the spectrum as your enemies means you're doing something right.

Quote from Zuberi

What we have here is a group of anti male psychopaths who want us silenced for telling the truth! Denial of truth and reality are sure fire signs of a lunatic!
These nutcases are howling in terror because feminism is dying faster then they can say ouch!
Those anti male trollops can keep squealing and lying but it won't change anything.
The biggest threat to a thief and a liar, is the truth!
That's why they hate us so much!
They lie as easy as they fart and the truth to them is like dousing a slug with salt!

My dear Zuberi, I may be rather new to this board, and merely an intermittent poster, but if there is one thing I have quickly learned it is that I can always count on your enthusiasm and creative metaphors - both of which I can easily appreciate!

But yes: I have no doubt that this enterprise will become progressively dangerous as we go on. And I also have no doubt that we are actually more closely targeted than we suspect - and have long been so; we simply cannot perceive all of the forces that are lined up against us. They have had a long time to entrench themselves, and have likely been monitoring us from the very beginning. I would not underestimate the extent to which they would go. Remember how the Radical Feminists bombed Biba in Erin Pizzey's article "How Feminists Tried to Destroy the Family"? Remember the bomb threat to Suzanne Steinmetz, and the stalking and threats to both hers and Pizzey's family? I would not put them past it. Not at all.

Remember, though: if anyone is truly targeting the Fathers' Rights and Men's Movement with extreme prejudice (and I have no doubt some are), they will likely target the leading theorists and contributors of the movement most specifically. I would be extremely suspicious if something "magically" happened to one of them.

Notice, however: in the video provided, they never provided evidence of any Fathers' Rights legislative proposals that encourage, support or excuse child abuse, never any evidence of this alleged conspiracy between Gardner and FRA's. To criticize the FR movement, I do question the idea of making parental alienation a syndrome per se, just as I question battered woman syndrome and rape trauma syndrome - which are all very subjective. NOW simply has not convinced me that this is one giant batterer/abuser conspiracy, and I can see clearly how well Feminism is radicalized on an institutional level. And let's not forget NOW has established clearinghouses specifically to battle Father's Rights groups, as stated here:

http://www.now.org/organization/conf...uti.html#alert

Remember: the entire agenda of these clearinghouses - the numbers of which we cannot tell - is to fight against Fathers' Rights groups. They have no other purpose than to destroy them; they are single-issue organizations.

And yet, regardless of the ominous tone of this video, our path is set nonetheless. We can't let these people scare us; we've got a damn job to do!

Also: by openly declaring themselves, they undermine their very agency. Although we should always be on our guard, they are foolish to tell us to prepare ourselves directly; that is not the way of covert combat! So they are either foolish - which I do not suspect - or the point of the video, etc, is something else.

I think there is a great magical solution to a lot of these threats, and that is this: to look at what we are doing as a movement, and make sure our approach is the best - both intellectually and morally - it can possibly be. And that, I believe, strongly involves soliciting the aid of as many women as possible, by avoiding friendly fire through such unscrupulous feminist tactics as collective guilt, and by making our primary target feminism, and not women, nor even "female culture." Rather than blame women for what we see going on - how Feminism has encouraged some of them to be rather naughty - I think it would be a good idea to encourage them to be heroic! For in truth, we really are the damsels in distress this time, whether we wanna admit it or not

Quote from Gogonostop

My dear Zuberi, I may be rather new to this board, and merely an intermittent poster, but if there is one thing I have quickly learned it is that I can always count on your enthusiasm and creative metaphors - both of which I can easily appreciate!

But yes: I have no doubt that this enterprise will become progressively dangerous as we go on. And I also have no doubt that we are actually more closely targeted than we suspect - and have long been so; we simply cannot perceive all of the forces that are lined up against us. They have had a long time to entrench themselves, and have likely been monitoring us from the very beginning. I would not underestimate the extent to which they would go. Remember how the Radical Feminists bombed Biba in Erin Pizzey's article "How Feminists Tried to Destroy the Family"? Remember the bomb threat to Suzanne Steinmetz, and the stalking and threats to both hers and Pizzey's family? I would not put them past it. Not at all.

Remember, though: if anyone is truly targeting the Fathers' Rights and Men's Movement with extreme prejudice (and I have no doubt some are), they will likely target the leading theorists and contributors of the movement most specifically. I would be extremely suspicious if something "magically" happened to one of them.

Notice, however: in the video provided, they never provided evidence of any Fathers' Rights legislative proposals that encourage, support or excuse child abuse, never any evidence of this alleged conspiracy between Gardner and FRA's. To criticize the FR movement, I do question the idea of making parental alienation a syndrome per se, just as I question battered woman syndrome and rape trauma syndrome - which are all very subjective. NOW simply has not convinced me that this is one giant batterer/abuser conspiracy, and I can see clearly how well Feminism is radicalized on an institutional level. And let's not forget NOW has established clearinghouses specifically to battle Father's Rights groups, as stated here:

http://www.now.org/organization/conf...uti.html#alert

Remember: the entire agenda of these clearinghouses - the numbers of which we cannot tell - is to fight against Fathers' Rights groups. They have no other purpose than to destroy them; they are single-issue organizations.

And yet, regardless of the ominous tone of this video, our path is set nonetheless. We can't let these people scare us; we've got a damn job to do!

Also: by openly declaring themselves, they undermine their very agency. Although we should always be on our guard, they are foolish to tell us to prepare ourselves directly; that is not the way of covert combat! So they are either foolish - which I do not suspect - or the point of the video, etc, is something else.

I think there is a great magical solution to a lot of these threats, and that is this: to look at what we are doing as a movement, and make sure our approach is the best - both intellectually and morally - it can possibly be. And that, I believe, strongly involves soliciting the aid of as many women as possible, by avoiding friendly fire through such unscrupulous feminist tactics as collective guilt, and by making our primary target feminism, and not women, nor even "female culture." Rather than blame women for what we see going on - how Feminism has encouraged some of them to be rather naughty - I think it would be a good idea to encourage them to be heroic! For in truth, we really are the damsels in distress this time, whether we wanna admit it or not

As a wise man once said "If you must resort to violence then you've already lost." In communist countries, telling the truth made you and enemy of the state. Any group or organization that peddles fraud and seeks to destroy common sense is evil by default.

""Any group or organization that peddles fraud and seeks to destroy common sense is evil by default. ""

the very core of feminitism is a lie and a fraud - the notion that men set out to oppress wimyn however what is true that wimyn set out to defraud men through callous deceit ;

withtheir Family Court leering at sincere men in the offing