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    Health Petition: UK Government: End Unnecessary Male Circumcision in The UK | Change.org

    When a baby boy bleeds to death in Oldham as the result of an Unnecessary Male Circumcision it is time to think again............

    Male Circumcision is a risky, abusive and unnecessary practice that affects 1 billion men and boys worldwide.

    There isn’t a single medical association in the world that recommends the practice and yet half a million boys in the UK will be subjected to Unnecessary Male Circumcision before their 16th birthday.

    The painful and unnecessary removal of a boy’s foreskin is an abuse of a child’s basic human right to be protected from damaging, dangerous and deadly practices.

    Many babies and boys in the UK are circumcised without appropriate anaesthetic by non-medical staff in community settings such as homes, restaurants and places of worship.

    One study of circumcisions performed in a community setting in Oxford found that 45% of boys suffered from complications.
    As well as the considerable short-term risks, Male Circumcision can also cause unnecessary medical, psychological and sexual problems over the longer term.

    In the most extreme cases male circumcision kills, as in the case of an Oldham baby who bled to death in 2010. The woman who carried out the procedure will go on trial for manslaughter later this year.

    An estimated 500 boys are being subjected to Unnecessary Male Circumcision in the UK every week for religious, cultural, social or ‘medical’ reasons.

    However, international research shows that the number of boys with rare medical conditions that may benefit from circumcision is less than 1% - and some surgeons say circumcision is always avoidable.

    Over the years advocates of Unnecessary Male Circumcision have claimed that it can prevent everything from asthma and alcoholism to prostate cancer and AIDS.

    All the reported health benefits have either been disproven, contradicted or considered too insignificant to justify the agreed risks and complications which include bleeding, infections, meatus stenosis (narrowing of the urethra) and panic attacks.

    The British Medical Association, for example, stated in 2003 that “the medical benefits previously claimed have not been convincingly proven” and “that the evidence concerning health benefits from non-therapeutic circumcision is insufficient for this alone to be a justification for doing it".

    There is a general trend in the UK to reduce the number of ‘medical’ circumcisions performed on boys as it is recognized that many conditions can be treated without surgery and research has shown that as many as 91% of ‘medical’ circumcisions performed in the UK could be medically unnecessary.

    Ritual Male Circumcision is different and in many cases worse than some Female Circumcision practices - such as nicking the clitoral hood - that are outlawed in the UK and other countries.

    There is growing concern amongst campaigners that the unequal legal protection from unnecessary genital surgery given to girls and boys could jeopardize the UK drive to protect the 100,000 women and girls who are thought to be at risk from Female Genital Mutilation in all its forms, some of which are more severe than Unnecessary Male Circumcision.

    We would like to see the Government take immediate action on behalf of the 500,000 boys in the UK who are affected by or at risk of Unnecessary Male Circumcision:

    To set up a national register of all male circumcisions performed in public, private and community settings to assess and monitor the scale of the problem

    To take action to reduce the number of ‘medical’ circumcisions that are performed unnecessarily on boys who could have their condition treated without surgery

    To begin work towards giving boys the same legal rights and strategic support that girls are currently given to protect them from unnecessary genital cutting and mutilation

    For more information visit: Ending Unnecessary Male Circumcision In The UK


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    Re: UK Government: End Unnecessary Male Circumcision in The UK

    For anyone who hasn't already, please sign this NOW!

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    Done.

    I noticed your name there "Marx".

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    Re: UK Government: End Unnecessary Male Circumcision in The UK

    Marx, is this only available for people to sign if they're from the UK? If not, I will quite gladly sign it!

    Circumcisions (be they male or female) should ALL be outlawed. I know the most severe female circumcisions are worse than the male ones...but honestly NOBODY needs to have their sex organs mutilated in such ways!

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    Marx, is this only available for people to sign if they're from the UK? If not, I will quite gladly sign it!
    Not sure... I don't see why none-UK people can't sign. If anything, it would show the UK gub'munt that the world is watching their reaction...

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    Circumcisions (be they male or female) should ALL be outlawed. I know the most severe female circumcisions are worse than the male ones...
    You might be surprised... Circumcision galore

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    but honestly NOBODY needs to have their sex organs mutilated in such ways!
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    Re: UK Government: End Unnecessary Male Circumcision in The UK

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    Not sure... I don't see why none-UK people can't sign. If anything, it would show the UK gub'munt that the world is watching their reaction...

    You might be surprised... Circumcision galore

    Yep!
    In that case, I will definitely sign it!

    Also, didnt mean that ALL female circumcision is worse than ALL male circumcision. Very interesting (and disturbing) article...why the hell people would do any of it is beyond me. Maybe I'd have to be part of that culture to understand it, but it seems traumatic and completely unnecessary to me, and probably most other outsiders.
    I had previously been comparing the typical UK/US version of male circumcision to the worst one I've seen done on a woman (inner labia cut off, clitoris cut off, hot metal rod placed in vagina to eliminate g-spot, and outer labia sewn together to allow only a small hole for passage of urine and blood. Done as a punishment for being seen talking to a nonrelated man outside of her home, it ensured the loss of all genital pleasure). Now I see there are some rituals that are just as bad for men.
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    Re: UK Government: End Unnecessary Male Circumcision in The UK

    Signed!

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    And where is our Minister for Equality on this one?
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    I was very seriously harmed by this abhorrent mutilation, as I have described in the following open letter to Dr Thomas Frieden, the director of the United States Government Centers for Disease Control.

    An open letter to Dr Thomas Frieden, Director, US Government CDC

    The sexual mutilation of baby boys by cutting off their foreskins is harmful


    Dear Dr Frieden,

    I understand that you may be considering making recommendations that may be harmful to baby boys, because of studies that found that cutting off men's foreskins can reduce the heterosexual transmission of AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa.

    I first became aware of the suggestion that cutting off men's foreskins might reduce the heterosexual transmission of AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa in an article, ``The African AIDS Epidemic,'' by John C. Caldwell and Pat Caldwell, in the March 1996 Scientific American, pages 62 - 68, or pages 40 - 46 in the UK edition. This article reported that there is a strong correlation between the heterosexual transmission of AIDS, and having sex while afflicted with chancroid, which is a sexually transmitted disease characterized by large soft sores on the genitals. Chancroid disappeared in North America and Western Europe around the beginning of the twentieth century, due to improvements in hygiene, and can be controlled by washing the genitals with soap and water following exposure.

    The article also reported that in poor areas where maintaining personal cleanliness was difficult, men whose foreskins had been cut off were less likely to be infected with AIDS, and subsequent randomized trials found that in areas with high levels of AIDS and chancroid, men whose foreskins had been cut off were roughly half as likely to become infected by HIV through sex with women as men with foreskins. But since cutting off a man's foreskin removes about half the skin of the penis, this shows that in areas with high levels of chancroid, all parts of the skin of the penis are equally likely to be afflicted by chancroid sores, through which the AIDS virus can pass.

    Thus efforts to stop the spread of AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa should focus on the eradication of chancroid, by publicizing the dangers of having sex while afflicted with chancroid, and the importance of washing the genitals with soap and water after exposure to chancroid, and determined efforts should be made to provide adequate clean running water to all communities where this is currently lacking. The provision of clean running water is a fundamental requirement for improving people's lives, and will have numerous benefits beyond stopping the spread of AIDS.

    Furthermore, since chancroid disappeared in North America and Western Europe more than a century ago, and heterosexual transmission of AIDS is rare in North America and Western Europe, the studies in areas with high levels of chancroid infection have no relevance to North America and Western Europe.

    My experience

    When I was about four years old, I liked to walk along the road with my hand down the front of my trousers, feeling my foreskin, because it felt nice. This was a delicious, soft, blissful feeling. Then my mother had my foreskin cut off, to stop me from feeling it.
    When I was about six years old, my parents complained that I was standing in an unnatural posture, with my bottom stuck out. With the benefit of hindsight, I now believe that I was standing like that, in a subconscious attempt to reduce pain from the exposed glans of my penis snagging and scraping on my underwear.

    I first became consciously aware of pain from the exposed glans of my penis snagging or scraping on my clothing when I was about ten years old, and running in a race at primary school. I was winning the race, when I was suddenly hit by a searing stab of pain as my urinary meatus snagged against my running shorts. I dropped back and lost the race.

    From around that time onwards, up until I began foreskin restoration by the skin stretching method in 1995, I was troubled by severe discomfort or pain when the exposed glans of my penis scraped or rubbed against my underwear, a horrible nerve-jarring sensation. And I would be hit by a searing stab of pain if my urinary meatus snagged against my underwear. This once nearly killed me in the early nineties when it happened while I was riding my motorbike, nearly causing me to lose control of the bike.

    To try to avoid these problems, I tried to prevent my penis moving around in my underwear, by pulling it downwards and folding it under my scrotum, then pulling my underpants up tightly to try to keep it in this position. This caused little bother while I was working at a desk, and was able to go to the toilet if need be to put my penis back in position if it became dislodged.

    However in 1990 I began working in a factory, and the job required me to be in constant physical motion, in order to dislodge window parts when they became stuck while moving round a large machine that processed them. I was constantly on edge for fear that my penis would become dislodged from its safe position, causing severe and uncontrollable pain, because I could not go to the toilet to put it back in position until my next break.

    The fact that my foreskin had been cut off also caused other problems, in particular the region around the scar was unbearable to touch, and the skin on the distal part of the shaft of my penis became taut and shiny when I had an erection, which made it physically unpleasant to have an erection.

    I therefore decided to seek a surgical foreskin restoration, and after making enquiries, I was contacted by a surgeon who had carried out two surgical foreskin restorations. The proposed operation involved removing a lot of skin from my scrotum. One time when I had pulled my underpants up too tight in the factory, it had caused extreme pain in my testicles after a while, and I realized that the operation could cause me to have this pain in my testicles all the time, so I decided not to have the operation.

    Around 1993 I learned from a magazine of the existence of organizations NOCIRC and UNCIRC in America, and after finding the phone number of one of them I spoke to Dr Jim Bigelow, a psychologist who pioneered the skin stretching method of foreskin restoration in America. He told me that the skin stretching method of foreskin restoration was available in England from Dr John Warren, and gave me Dr Warren's contact details, but I did not contact Dr Warren at that time, because I did not know what the skin stretching method involved, and I was sceptical about it.

    Around March 1995 I was experiencing very severe pain from the exposed glans of my penis snagging and scraping on my clothing, due to squatting down continually to sandpaper window parts in a factory, which made it impossible to keep my penis in a fixed position. In desperation I phoned Dr Warren, who explained that the principle of the skin stretching method is that if tension is applied to skin over a long period of time, new skin cells gradually grow to relieve the tension.

    Dr Warren told me to pull skin from the shaft of my penis up over the glans and tape it there with surgical tape, which can be bought at drug stores, so as to create a surrogate foreskin. This immediately brought relief from the pain, and I used this method to get through the day without pain, for the next eight years. After about six years it became necessary also to put a tab of surgical tape directly on my glans across my urinary meatus, to stop my urinary meatus from being dragged open by the shaft skin dragging backwards, which would cause severe pain after a while if not corrected.

    Not long after I spoke to him, Dr Warren formed NORM-UK, a self-help group for men restoring their foreskins by the skin stretching method, named after similar organizations in America. NORM stands for National Organization of Restoring Men. NORM-UK is now a registered charity, with a large website and a full-time professional manager.

    Around 2000 I attended a NORM-UK foreskin restoration seminar, where Dr Peter Ball described a number of restoration devices, including the Tug Ahoy tapeless restoration device, manufactured by Dr Jim Haughey in America. In 2003 I purchased a Tug Ahoy and used it for a year, making rapid progress with foreskin restoration. In 2005, on the recommendation of Dr Ball, I purchased a TLC Tugger tapeless restoration device, and used it for two years. The result is that I now have a completely restored foreskin, and life is incomparably better than it was before I started restoration in 1995.

    But I have never recovered the delicious, soft, blissful feeling, that I remember from before my proper foreskin was cut off.


    The legal consequences

    I would draw your attention to the fact that if you make any recommendations that result in an increase in the number of baby boys who are sexually molested and mutilated by someone cutting off their foreskin, you might become criminally liable under Section 373 of Title 18 of the United States Code, 18USC373, for incitement to commit a crime of violence.

    You might also become liable for civil damages, whose combined value could exceed the total wealth of the United States of America.

    Yours sincerely,


    Mr Chris Austin.

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    is this only available for people to sign if they're from the UK? If not, I will quite gladly sign it!
    It looks like anyone is free to sign it (else they wouldn't have a drop down menu to choose your country). I would imagine signatures from UK residents will probably be more valuable than from foreigners but I don't see any problem at all if there are a few signatures here and there from others showing they are aware and taking an interest.

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    Done.

    And what is Lynne Featherstone, the equalities minister, doing about this? Bugger all! She's chosen to totally ignore genital mutilation of British boys, and instead focused on campaigning against female circumcision in third-world countries. And, would she and the British media have been so silent if it had been a girl who bled to death in Oldham, because of a botched circumcision?

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    Signatures 937 out of 1,000

    btw what actually happens when the target is reached?

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    And where is our Minister for Equality on this one?
    Well, if you Google, 'Lynne Featherstone', you'll get get a few thousand results where it's "wimmin, wimmin, wimmin" all the way. But no sign of a contact address.
    If you have better luck let me know.

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    Funnily enough, before this story hit, I always found it odd how people said how abhorrent female genital mutilation is, but never batted an eyelid at male mutilation.

    I always wince when I speak to a circumcised person, ouch! I feel it is abhorrent to force it on a child, but always assumed I was in the minority, so didn't kick up a fuss, just as I probably am with christenings or any religious/cults forced on a child which is tantamount to raping of their soul.

    Didn't even know there was a petition, but signed it. Fine if people want that religious ceremony, but let the child decide when it is able to. The episode of Ike's brisk in South Park springs to mind.


 

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