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    Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

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    Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers
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    Conservative Ann Coulter goes after single mothers and the damage they are doing to society. This is a cut down version of the show, for the other women gang up on her and don’t let her speak in the longer version. Still here is what we need from more women on our side. “The View” is an American Woman’s talk show with 4 feminists and one conservative woman as regulars.

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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    Had a look at her on here the other day and mentioned the same thing..

    "want to reduce the crime rate by 70%, stop single mothers raising kids"

    Love it..
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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    Interestingly, the UK conservatives used to rant on and on about single mothers, but all the time they were in power, they simply went about giving single mothers ever more incentives to do what they do best..

    The greatest boost to single mothers and the family destructive policies was the conservatives introduction of the child support act..

    How long have the republicans been in power in the US?

    What have they done to stop the number of single mothers increasing?

    I dont see any evidence that this ann woman has a stance that would benefit the mens movement or reduce the number of single mothers until I see what she thinks should be done..

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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    "Thank a single mother" for criminals and juvenile delinquents? Ann Coulter is a stupid *****. She discounts all the other factors that come into play here, and demonizes single mothers for actually being there to raise their kids. What a dolt. Further, she claims this sort of thing is a "leftist plan"...the intent of the left all along?

    She's nuts.

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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    Quote Quote from christianj View Post
    Had a look at her on here the other day and mentioned the same thing..

    "want to reduce the crime rate by 70%, stop single mothers raising kids"

    Love it..
    And what would be her solution to stop single mothers from raising kids? Put 'em in foster care? Adoption? Abortion?

    I think we should give custody to fathers every time and have them raise the kids alone, analyze the outcome over time, and see if it really is any better.

    I'd like to hear her solutions....

    "Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."

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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    No Tera she is right. 70% of people who are in prison come from single mother homes does this not make you wonder if single mother homes are not the best thing for children?

    Or like many single mothers do you just refuse to see the facts.

    And the lefties have been non stop trying to destroy the nuclear family that is blatantly obvious. It isn't conservatives running around like Chicken Little screaming the sky is falling about everything.

    Everything under the sun is somehow unfair to anyone who they do not consider a minority.

    Face it single mother homes are not what is best for children. Not that this can always be helped and there are fathers out there that are worth less.

    But making single mothers into superhero's is pure bullshit.

    If they were as good as they claim they would involve the fathers as much as possible not just once a weak or 4 days a month.

    Too often we hear women claiming they are raising the kids with no help from the father like it is a damn badge of honor or something. That is what is stupid. To refuse help that will benefit her kids in order to stroke her own ego at the claim "I am raising my kids alone with no help from the sperm donor".

    It is ridiculous to have this as a goal when it is the kids who pay for the mom's ego trip.
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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    Does it make you mad how she talks about single mothers? Well now you have put your toes into the shoe of a divorced father that is forced out of his family.

    Here are some solutions Tera.

    Quit making it so damn easy to get a divorce.

    Quit making it so damn profitable for women to choose single motherhood.

    Start making shared parenting the norm instead of the exception.

    Trade off child ransom payments with involvement by the father.

    Quit giving mothers custody simply because the are women and start looking in to which parent would be better for the children when shared parenting will not work.

    Quit making money more important than children and fathers.

    There are all sorts of things that can be done that would be far better for children than the current make single mom's into hero's model we are using now.

    There you go Tera now what are your solutions?
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    No Tera she is right. 70% of people who are in prison come from single mother homes does this not make you wonder if single mother homes are not the best thing for children?

    Or like many single mothers do you just refuse to see the facts.

    And the lefties have been non stop trying to destroy the nuclear family that is blatantly obvious. It isn't conservatives running around like Chicken Little screaming the sky is falling about everything.

    Everything under the sun is somehow unfair to anyone who they do not consider a minority.

    Face it single mother homes are not what is best for children. Not that this can always be helped and there are fathers out there that are worth less.

    But making single mothers into superhero's is pure bullshit.

    If they were as good as they claim they would involve the fathers as much as possible not just once a weak or 4 days a month.

    Too often we hear women claiming they are raising the kids with no help from the father like it is a damn badge of honor or something. That is what is stupid. To refuse help that will benefit her kids in order to stroke her own ego at the claim "I am raising my kids alone with no help from the sperm donor".

    It is ridiculous to have this as a goal when it is the kids who pay for the mom's ego trip.
    Chevalier,

    I'm not denying the fact that children do better in two parent households. Nor am I denying that broken homes often produce mal-adjusted children who then go on to become mal-adjusted adults. Those are facts.

    What I am saying is that Ann is ignoring other factors, "blaming" single mothers, ignoring the fact that some fathers are absent by choice, and that poverty plays a role in this, as well. It's not right to blame all single mothers for crime. That's a biased view. And it's a huge stretch to say that that the deconstruction of the family is a deliberate a leftist "plan."

    What are her solutions to all of this?

    What are yours?

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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    Beat you to it Tera. And it is abundantly clear that the destruction of the nuclear family is their goal if not then they would not be pushing for ever more ways for mothers to get custody by hook or crook.

    They wouldn't be pushing for non traditional families.They wouldn't be pushing for gay marriage.

    It is very evident they want to remove any one from any position of authority who pushes for people to not only be held accountable for their own actions but who promote people to act in a responsible manner.

    Lefties want anarchy as the end goal. No authority. They think it will somehow lead to Utopia. But the evidence shows it will just lead to lawlessness with proof being the society we have today. Where all authoitarians being mocked and gangs of young kids from single mother homes murdering each other.
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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    Quote Quote from chevalier View Post
    Does it make you mad how she talks about single mothers? Well now you have put your toes into the shoe of a divorced father that is forced out of his family.

    Here are some solutions Tera.

    Quit making it so damn easy to get a divorce.

    Quit making it so damn profitable for women to choose single motherhood.

    Start making shared parenting the norm instead of the exception.

    Trade off child ransom payments with involvement by the father.

    Quit giving mothers custody simply because the are women and start looking in to which parent would be better for the children when shared parenting will not work.

    Quit making money more important than children and fathers.

    There are all sorts of things that can be done that would be far better for children than the current make single mom's into hero's model we are using now.

    There you go Tera now what are your solutions?
    I don't believe in forcing people to stay married who do not want to be. How is that good for the kids?

    It is not profitable to be a single mother. Many live in poverty.

    Shared parenting is ideal, but not always practical. You can't give kids stability while shipping them back and forth between cities, states, and schools like a UPS package.

    I agree that child support payments have become insanely high and unaffordable to many. This problem needs serious attention. However, I believe both parents should be financially responsible for their children. They should do what they feasibly can to support them.

    I agree that women shouldn't get custody just because they are women. Courts should give custody to whom would be the best source of stability and care. Determining this should be based on factors other than gender.

    "Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."

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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    I didn't say people had to stay together Tera read what I write not what you want to see. I said make it harder not impossible. If divorce were not the easy way out more people would work on their marriages. Nice try though.

    "Many live in poverty" then would it not be better to give custody to the parent with the better income? Why give the kids to someone who cannot afford to keep them? And most single mothers are not in poverty any way that is just more bullshit feminist propaganda.

    So why didn't you put down your ideas Tera like I asked or is it going to be like the last several times I have asked and all you will do is critique comments but add no ideas of your own? You cahllenged me and I answered the ball is in your court.
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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    The key issue is no fault divorce. As long as we have no fault divorce, we will have high divorce rates. That means we will have a lot of single parenting going on. The statistics on that, in terms of outcomes, are not good at all. Yes, there are other factors at play, but single parenting (generally here the absence of fathers in the home, given that mom usually gets custody) correlates with a huge number of bad outcomes. That doesn't mean people are "bashing single mothers". I think most people realize that single mothers are doing the best they can under less than ideal circumstances. But the point is that these circumstances are less than ideal, and correlate with increased social problems down the road in many (not all) cases. For Whoopi Goldberg to simply deny this is to deny reality -- they simply do not want to admit that the ideal situation is bio mom and bio dad living together, raising the kid together.

    In addition, without question the radicals who forced no fault divorce had the explicit objective of drastically weakening the family. It was peddled as giving men and women options in bad marriages, but it seems clear enough that they knew it would result in a lot of divorces and single parenting. The reason for this is that they see patriarchy as the ultimate oppressive force of history, and to remove patriarchy, you have to remove your local patriarch, namely the father. This was very clearly the intent, and it has worked. The results have been not so great, based on the studies we are seeing. The feminists in this clip want to sweep all of that under the rug by wishing the problem away, or blaming other factors when in reality the whole problem is no fault divorce. The situation cannot be fixed without fixing divorce law and getting rid of no fault divorce. I don't think this will happen, and that's why I fully expect we are going to see a continuing downward spiral .. because without stable families at the core of a civilization, it cannot stand.

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    I don't think leftists want "anarchy." They want easy, speedy solutions to complex problems, perhaps, but anarchy...I don't think so. In fact, they tend to think that government help is the solution to every problem. Being a single mom myself, I'm glad there are resources out there to help families get back up on their feet again after a divorce. I don't get child support payments or alimony or anything of the sort, and after being an at-home mom for most of my young adult life into late adulthood, I had no job skills at the time of my divorce. I needed to get job training in order to make it, and there were times my family would have went without medical care or food if we didn't have the resources that are out there. The problem is, some people abuse the resources that are available. Times are changing, though, and it is no longer easy for people to abuse the welfare system. People are required to work, and/or get job training for work. They can't just sit around on welfare collecting never-ending payments and doing nothing to help themselves. It may have been like that in the past, but it is no longer that way now. Being on welfare was never profitable, before the WorkFirst program was implemented, and after. Try raising kids, paying for utilities, rent, etc., on $400 a month. Being on welfare is still living in poverty. Luckily, the way things are now, the government is only helping those who help themselves. As it should be.

    The "lefties" were the ones who instituted welfare reform to get people working again. In 1996 President Clinton signed the legislation that made the WorkFirst program a reality.

    Anarchy...I don't think so.

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    Re: Conservative Ann Verses Single Mothers

    Well I am just as proud as punch that you don't think so I guess that makes me wrong. But wait Tera what is going to happen when the governement has bankrupted the people with new programs it can't pay for? Anarchy maybe hmmm. Oops to late that is what is happening now.

    Maybe if divorces weren't handed out like candy families would stay together and these programs wouldn't be needed. Lefties aren't solving problems they are creating them.
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    Oh and I still haven't seen any of your solutions just more trying to prove that lefties are just out to save the butterflies.
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