Here's the conclusion to Bernard Chapin's interview with Steve Moxon:
The Science of Female Supremacy: Part II
March 5, 2008
Continuation of Monday's Interview with Steve Moxon:
BC: You posit that women showcase same-sex favoritism at a rate four times that of men. Might the inevitable outcome of such a preference result in female bosses and managers attempting to purge men from the workplace? Or, at least, be far more likely to do so to the opposite sex than males would be?
Steve Moxon: Certainly. Experimental work shows that women have a fourfold same-sex preference for members of their 'in-group', and this exactly matches the preference for women over men by organisations involved even in male sex-typical work (IT and accountancy) when it comes to selecting applicants for job interviews from their applications (Riach & Rich, 2006). So there is clear evidence that work organisations as a whole are operating on female prejudicial principles. This will seriously backfire, however, because it's highly deleterious for those work organisations, for several reasons. Unlike men, women tend not to be task or work group orientated (the female in-group being family and friends and tenuous extensions of these; not a symbolically identified all-inclusive social group such as those within the same workplace). In almost any performance you care to measure, men polarise and women remain in the middle, so meritocracy will be sacrificed.
BC: Does the predicament in which man finds himself in our new century largely a result of chivalry? In light of sex-based quotas and other modes of state oppression, is not chivalry an act of self-destruction?
Steve Moxon: Chivalry (or 'gallantry', as it used to be called), is natural male deference. This is, in biological terms, the non-engagement is dominance-submission interactions. We know from other primate species that the sexes never interact in dominance-submission terms. We also now know that there is a single gene controlling this. This ensures that default behaviour between individuals of the same species is in some way sexual: it is only when a same-sex other is encountered that the gene works so that dominance-submission behaviour kicks in.
BC: Are women more controlling in their interpersonal relationships than are men?
Steve Moxon: Yes. Very recent research has clearly established this in long-term sexual partnerships. This is because women have a greater need than men to 'mate guard' — to keep their partner's main reproductive effort for themselves. Men certainly don't want their wives sleeping with other men, because that would risk them bringing up some other man's child. This is why men have evolved to be so jealous of their partner simply having sex with anyone else. But once a wife is pregnant and then gestating and breast feeding (which went on for four or five years in the ancestral environment), then she was not sexually available and a man could relax.
For a woman, on the other hand, there is the ever present risk that she could be deserted. This is not just a problem regarding provisioning and less concrete aspects of fathering in raising any children she has, but it means she couldn't have further children by her (first) husband. The problem is that a woman's value as a mate declines precipitously with age (and the effects of having children), so if her husband deserts her, any subsequent husband she may find will be a very substantially poorer 'bag of genes', as it were, than the first. For many men it works the other way: a man can often rise in status as he gets older, so far from 'mate guarding' his first wife, he may well be glad to be rid of her to make way for a new and much younger and more attractive one.
It is for the reason of this sex difference re 'control' that the actual social science research (as opposed to the mantra emanating from the advocacy movement) reveals that domestic violence is more prevalent female-to-male than it is male-to-female, and by wide margins at serious levels and in terms of unilateral aggression.
BC: Has the furor over domestic violence essentially been one big lie? I say this in relation to Chapter 10 “Home Lies,” and particularly the excellent analysis conducted by Professor Martin Fiebert in 2007 suggesting that not a single study (out of 200) revealed that significantly higher levels of aggression occurred in the male-to-female direction than vice-versa.
Steve Moxon: Most of these studies showed either rough equivalence, or significantly or considerably more DV female-to-male. So DV is predominantly female-on-male — especially at serious levels of violence, and where the violence is unilateral. To present DV as advocates do as essentially a male perpetrated crime indeed is one very big lie. Not only is most DV by women, but overall most violence by women is towards men (twice as much as that towards other women), and this dramatically contrasts with male violence, which is very many times more frequently directed towards other men.
BC: You cite a Home Office rape study from 1999 indicating that the majority of rape complaints were classified by police as “no crime” or “no further action.” Why was no action taking against female false accusers? Is this an example of chivalry justice?
Steve Moxon: At root this is down to the standard 'doing down' of men and 'bigging up' women. Prejudice in favour of women — privileging them — means that they are given 'the benefit of the doubt' regarding their motivation for fabricating a complaint; yet we know that the predominant form that female aggression takes is 'relational' ('indirect'). Fabrication of complaints that have a devastating impact on those accused is exactly how we should expect women to behave. But apart from this — and this is the bigger picture — women make up allegations not through malice but to cover up their own misdemeanour — even when the embarrassment caused seems trivial. The underlying reason for this appears to be to do with evolved reasons why women might non-consciously try to cover up extra-pair sex. It seems that we intuit this, and somehow accept this sort of behaviour by women.
BC: Is there any truth to the notion that males think more logically than do women? Conversely, are women more emotion-based in their reasoning?
Steve Moxon: There are now known to be massive sex differences in brain architecture, so that there are near order of magnitude differences between male and female brains in terms of IQ-related neural connectivity and processing tissue. Men's brains are much more about processing, whereas women's are much more about connectivity — it has long been known that the structure carrying the nerve fibres connecting the two cerebral hemispheres is far thicker in women. This structural difference shows up overall. So it is that Simon Baron-Cohen characterises male brains as 'systemising' and female as 'empathising'. This difference has evolved because of the very different problems that the sexes have to deal with in their lives. Women have to be 'people' people, and men have to compete and be good at something.
BC: Can we conclude that males paying for sex is non-pathological? Indeed, is it merely a reflection of supply and demand?
Steve Moxon: Not only is it non-pathological, but it makes sense morally. All normal men, quite apart from a long-term loving relationship desire an endless stream of novel sexual partners. Most men are not attractive enough to women (because they don’t have high enough status) to achieve this, and even those men who are high status don't want to risk their long-term relationships for a fling. Their one-night-stands may well be in courting mode, as it were, and actively seek to destroy the man's marriage. Unlike men, women's jealousy has evolved not to be provoked so much by a partner's extra-pair sex as by emotional infidelity, so women usually are relatively unperturbed by a partner's visits to prostitutes. A fully fledged long-term affair is an entirely different matter.
BC: I recognize that England and America have differing laws and regulations, but what universal policies could government enact or perhaps more importantly, discontinue to better the lot of men in our nations, and, thus, increase equality and justice for all?
Steve Moxon: The law should start with recognising profound sex difference rather than pretending that treating the sexes exactly equally is fair. It isn't. For example, policies that seek to equalise the sexes in jobs high up work organisation hierarchies necessarily very heavily directly discriminate against men, because it is natural than men hugely outnumber women here. Men are far more intra-sexually competitive than are women. Without a good job a man has no life: he can't attract or maintain a partner. This is not true for any woman. All women can have a life irrespective of the nature of their jobs, or whether they have any job at all.
BC: Thank you so much for your time and thank you for writing this book, Mr. Moxon.
Bernard Chapin is the author of Women: Theory and Practice and Escape from Gangsta Island and a series of video podcasts called “Chapin’s Inferno.” He can be contacted at firstname.lastname@example.org.