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What are we trying to achieve? Terrible story, but no doubt much damage was done to the boys who did this by their upbringing.

Being a parent... Dear me.. I wonder if any parent really feels "I did a good job".. I know there are many things I could have done better, and still could do better.. But mothers and the state raise kids these days on the hole.. Fathers are lucky to get a couple of days a month if they are not living with the mother.. And if they are living with the mother.... EVEN LESS THAN THAT!!!!

Most of what you post is about the fact that you have moved away from a shit situation to a better one in the East.. Men who do not wish to travel far away who "calmly walk away" will be walking where to exactly? Often, to somewhere SHITTER than where they were or could be! Men are "on strike" are they? I wonder, perhaps they are "redefining what life is really about".. And stuffing the work ethic down the shitter, is well overdue!!

I do.. Feel.. Every since I noticed how the MRM works, (when it does, which is rare indeed..) it is going down the same old "equalist" "anti sexist" etc.. roads.. Common sense tells me that men can change a baby etc just as well as a woman.. Simply because fathers are generally not stupid and imcompetent.. (Unlike mothers, because any mindless or otherwise incapble tart can get pregs).. Men in the MRM often get upset when folks try and make fun of men in the old familiar ways..

I guess so....... if thats how you feel.... :rolleyes2:

I woulldn't credit "MRA's" with anything but it does seem like the sort of whiney petty crap that they would jump up and make a fuss about.. Its relatively easy to get commercial concerns to change tack though isn'tit?

Fucking hell. It always makes me despair for the state of the human race when animals are treated with more regard than humans.. And even more so, when we are talking about animals that are almost certainly going to be EATEN at some time in the near future..

Another thing about the article,it is saying that it is the stay at home dad's that have made the company's change their tune. As if mra's in general didn't also have a hand in it all.

Men lose out every way, as always.. The state loves family breakdown..

As I wood say.. "depends how ewe look a tit".. And any man who turns his back on a woman, or women, or whatever, will soon have a sheepish look on his face when they help themselves to what he is leaving.. MGTOW can work well, for some, but why should men have to give up their dreams when a bit more testosterone could win it for them?

Ya...well...seems to me a lot of men are not interested in such a thing. My kid's look like me and thats enough to convince me. These stay at home dad's will see where they stand once the kid's are older and can look after themselves and daddy isn't needed as much. Believe me,I know where they stand. They will be at the mercy of the mother and all the diaper changing in the world isn't gonna make the court's sway in their favour. As a matter of fact,because the mom has been the...

I dunno about that? I think it is more along the lines of men turning their back,rather than running away.

I always think stay at home dads need truth in paternity tests first of all..

Damn. How did I miss this topic? This kinda like blowing the lid off of the whole feminist game.

Excellent idea Rolf. MGTOW is men running away, the MRM is the Mens Moaning Club.. What we need to do is get our balls back out of the handbags of the ladies, and stand up proud and erect like good uns! I do believe you are talking about me my good fellow.. Correct me if I am wrong..

Congratulations.. I think practically every MRA I have ever met or had dealings with started off as a feminist.. I didnt read your post because it was long and I dont really need to know the whys or whatever.. Hope you can help undo the shit that all these "feminists" have done over the decades now!

I can hear thousands of 'Absent' fathers around the world echoing your sentiments, with me at the front of the queue Liam!

uhm....maybe this shouldn't be in the good news forum.Even a father favourable article can not resist promoting thier misandry. Couple of comments;

Depends what you want to brag about YY.. Some men like to count their tallywhacker scores from all sources.. The "Bottom feeding" porkster who will snake anything to get an astronomical number of notches on whatever wood he can find.. Some blokes say "quality counts" they only rate the women who can be used as "arm trophies".,, No compromises, 8's plus only.. Bragggging is a natural male activity and we all do it don't we? Personally, I stopped counting even the ones that were...

The influence of family law extends far outside the walls of this corrupt institution. I have never even once walked into one of their courtrooms. Regardless I didn't need a judge or even an attorney to tell me that my (then) wife was holding all the aces. I knew that my decision making abilities within the family were limited by what I could purchase outright and within a very small list even inside the scope of that range. Had I wanted to move to the country where the air is clearer and...

Great post. You should read Erin Pizzey's blog posts here: Sandra Orozco-Stapleton Foundation » Erin Pizzey » This Way To The Revolution - Part 1. She talks about a similar experience.

Just being born with them is already that. Might as well put them to use.

Parents provide their children with opportunities and good memories. Children learn more from their peers (and their unique environment) than from their parents. Therefore, parents must make sure that the child is in good company. Most of the "bad habits" that children pick up, they do so from their peers not parents. Yet we blame the parents for everything in today's culture. As for role models, any adult that the child takes a liking to can act as a "mentor" — it's usually a parent, though....