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Contacting him is very simple: http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do...n.contact.page Subscribe to my accounts on DocStoc, Scribd, Twitter and YouTube. Join the men's rights community on Reddit. | ||||
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I've sent him a lovely message ![]() Quote:
Out of the gloom a voice spake unto me. 'Smile and be happy, Things could get worse." So I smiled and was happy, and behold... Things did get worse. ►My blog / Your Blog ►Please use the TAGS to help organise the content - found at the bottom of every thread ►If you have found a website that supports predominantly male clients, click here to list it so other men may make use of it. Sorry to say - it's that time again - donations are needed to help support the upkeep of the site. I've been paying the last few installments but cannot reach January's - please donate £10 or whatever you can afford by click the 'Donate' button... Last edited by Marx; 14th-November-2007 at 02:31 AM.. | ||||
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My message: Quote:
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Dear Mr Cameron Firstly, I thank you for the reply I received on your behalf to my last email to you (in September) on men's rights issues. I did look at the Stand Up Speak Up idea at the link I was given, but I noticed that a person must be a member, or must join, the Conservative Party in order to contribute ideas. Would you consider starting a forum that is open to all members of the public, including supporters of other parties, or a petitions page, such as the Prime Minister has? I have written concerning your recent proposals regarding the issue of rape. While I agree with you in principal that all that is possible should be done to stop this appalling crime, I do worry that your views are somewhat unbalanced on the subject, and that this could lead to much harm to many people. Or perhaps I have understood you wrong. To qualify what I mean about your views not being balanced, I use the example of the original introduction of a Minister for Women. While it may have been a necessary step, the fact that no Minister for Men was introduced, also, has created a great imbalance. It shows that male victims of gender discrimination or hate are less important than female victims. Over the last decade and a half, hundreds of males or more in the UK (myself included) have been the victims of gender hate in many different ways. While I do not blame this entirely on the lack of a Minister for Men, some representation would have at least given these victims a voice. I note that you advocate the discussion of rape in schools. Again, I agree in principal that educating young people (but teenagers only) about these issues would be beneficial. However the hate of males in some areas of education is committed openly and often with impunity. As an adult in further education I could not personally cope with the hate, and had to give up my studies. I know of cases such as boys being made to sit and play at the back of the classroom while the tutor teaches the girls only; and in one school I know of there is cctv in the boys' toilets, though not in the girls' toilets, despite there being incidents of bullying, fighting and vandalism committed by girls. Any talk of rape in the current education system will only ever be one sided, and it will destroy the lives of some boys. On the issue of rape lessons, I hope all rape would be treated with equal concern. Such as a male who has sex with a woman while he is too intoxicated to consent, and realises that he did not want to do this the next day. Or the loophole in English law that I am not convinced has been addressed, where a woman can legally have sex with a boy of 14 or 15. This was shown in the Amy Gehring case 2001/2 where the Judge directed that one charge against the female tutor be dropped because it is not illegal for a woman to have sex with a 15 year old boy. I found the extract below which is discussing this: The Gehring case - as with the King trial - has furthermore highlighted the UK's backward, conflicting and irrational laws on 'adult-child' sex. A law dating from 1956 prohibits a man from having sex with a girl aged 15 or under, but does not stop a woman from having sex with a boy of 15. If an adult woman does have sex with a teenager aged 14 or 15 she can - like Gehring - only be charged with "indecent assault". The word "assault", however, implies that the woman must have played an active role in the encounter, and also perhaps that she inflicted a degree of coercion on her 'victim'. From a legalistic point of view, this means that - as the judge graphically pointed out in the trial - an adult woman who removes her clothes, lies on a bed and passively allows an all-too-willing-and-eager 15-year-old boy to have sexual intercourse with her is committing no offence. However, if she merely kisses the boy - defined as an "active" move - she may well be guilty of an offence … as long, of course, as he is under the legal 'age of consent'. http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/418/gehring.html Finally, the fact that those wrongly accused of rape do not have anonymity can ruin lives. As the extract below demonstrates: The crime of making a false allegation is not exclusive to women. On April 24, 2007 TimesOnline reported that Aftab Ahmed, 44 of Bradford, England was cleared of a false allegation. A teenage girl accused the cab driver of rape in January 2006. Mr Ahmed stated, "The accusations have destroyed my family. It has impacted on myself, my wife and my children. To be accused of rape is the most serious crime in my religion of Islam." Aftab Ahmed lost everything as a result. The adolescent girl was sentenced to only four months detention. http://abuse.suite101.com/article.cfm/false_allegations A compromise I heard suggested on one website, by more than one woman, (and I support the idea personally) is that a man who has no previous history or accusations of rape should be allowed anonymity. I would be very grateful if you will try to ensure that your views on this issue are as balanced as possible. | |||
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Good! Staying calm and providing arguments and facts is the best way to approach politicians. All by itself it will not be enough, of course, other forms of pressure will need to be applied, but this is a good way to let them know that even law-abiding decent well-educated citizens are becoming concerned. | ||||
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I have received a reply: Quote:
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Totally inadequate response. Anywhere I see the feminist buzzphrase "violence against women" I just switch off because I know it indicates conformity to feminist ideology. Sure enough as you continue reading it's just more and more textbook Feminism/Marxism. Same phrases, same mindset, same indifference to what men think, same indifference to justice. The name of the Conservative Party means nothing any more. They are a UN-influenced, pro-feminist, anti-men party like ALL large political parties are. Quote:
The Conservative Party's response is just further proof that there is no democratic representation for men. There is no choice for men in any of the "big two" parties in any given Western democracy. | ||||
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Wow, frosty, you even got a real reply, not an automated one! I won't dissect it, as most of it is just empty rhetoric, but I'll point out this: Quote:
I'd really like to see him comment on cases such as this then. Oh, lemme guess, it's just an exception to the rule, right? Well, how 'bout this one then? And this one. Or this one? This, this, or this? Etc. All exceptions to the rule, right? And where in these cases does it show that false accusation was treated like a serious offence? Quote:
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Ding ding - wrong. I just moments back received an identical email. Out of the gloom a voice spake unto me. 'Smile and be happy, Things could get worse." So I smiled and was happy, and behold... Things did get worse. ►My blog / Your Blog ►Please use the TAGS to help organise the content - found at the bottom of every thread ►If you have found a website that supports predominantly male clients, click here to list it so other men may make use of it. Sorry to say - it's that time again - donations are needed to help support the upkeep of the site. I've been paying the last few installments but cannot reach January's - please donate £10 or whatever you can afford by click the 'Donate' button... | ||||
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![]() I have a strong feeling the David Cameron will fuck things up for the Conservatives before the next general election. Subscribe to my accounts on DocStoc, Scribd, Twitter and YouTube. Join the men's rights community on Reddit. | ||||
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Not sure what their race policy is these days, they have been criticised for it in the past, and indeed unless they get to grips with the rumours that they are racist they dont stand much chance! Voting BNP is largely regarded as a protest vote. The fact that the main parties dont like the BNP seems a good enough reason to vote for them! I dont usually vote for anyone because the government always gets in! | |||
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