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    There's a filthy word for this one!


    By SARAH NETTER
    Aug. 16, 2010
    Montana Teen Charged With Homicide Sues Slain Woman's Family - ABC News
    A Montana teenager charged with deliberately causing a fatal car crash in a failed suicide attempt has filed a lawsuit against the family of the pregnant woman who was killed in the collision with her teenage son.

    Everyone from the prosecutor in the case to neighbors of both families have raised their eyebrows at the teen's actions, with some saying it may be an inappropriate defense tactic.

    Justine Winter was 16 years old the night her car plowed head-on into another vehicle on Montana's Highway 93, killing 35-year-old Erin Thompson and her 13-year-old son Caden Odell. Thompson was four months pregnant.

    Prosecutors say the March 2009 crash was a calculated suicide attempt that occurred less than an hour after she broke up with her boyfriend and left his house. Their evidence, in part, rests with a series of ominous text messages Winter sent to her boyfriend minutes before the crash.

    "If I won, I would have you," one text message read. "And I wouldn't crash my car."

    And another, "That's why I'm going to wreck my car. Because all I can do is f*** up. Because I am a terrible person and I know it."

    And also, "Good bye ... my last words."

    Winter, now 17, was charged as an adult with two counts of deliberate homicide. She faces life in prison.

    The lawsuit claims Winter suffered permanent injuries in the crash and a "loss of capacity to enjoy life." She is also claiming future loss of income as well as past, present and future medical expenses.

    Filed last month in Flathead County District Court, the suit names as defendants Thompson's estate, with her husband Jason Thompson as a representative, as well as three businesses that operate and provide services on Highway 93.

    Winter, backed by her father Randy Winter because of her status as a minor, accuses Thompson of causing the accident through "negligent driving." The three companies -- Knife River Corporation, Western Traffic Control, Inc., and Mountain West Holding Company -- are accused of failing to properly maintain the highway, which was under construction at the time.

    No one from the Winter or Thompson families could be reached for comment. Winter's attorneys, David Stufft and Maxwell Battle Jr., also did not return repeated calls for comment.

    Flathead County Attorney Ed Corrigan, who is prosecuting the criminal case against Winter, told ABCNews.com that Winter's lawsuit may prove to be the start of her defense.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if it was an effort on their part to force a change of venue or put pressure on the state to get it settled," he said. "I can't speculate on what they're thinking, but it could be strategy of some sort."

    "I'm concerned that the lawsuit being filed is going to inflame the public in what's already for us a relatively notorious case," he added.

    Court Documents Breakdown of Crash That Killed a Pregnant Mom and Her Son

    According to the criminal complaint against her, Winter crossed the center line on Highway 93 going about 85 mph and slammed into Thompson's car. An investigation of the crash shows no tire marks on the road that would have indicated that Winter had tried to avoid the crash.

    Court documents allege that a post-crash inspection of the car showed that Winter "was not wearing her seatbelt, she was at 95 percent throttle ('all the way to the floor.')

    The same report noted that she was traveling 86 mph three to five seconds before impact and braked only one second before impact.

    "In that effort to take her own life, the defendant instead took the lives of Mrs. Thompson and Caden," Flathead County Attorney Ed Corrigan wrote in the complaint.

    Montana State Trooper Dustin LaRette, who arrived on the scene the next day for the accident reconstruction, said the road construction going on at the time of the crash that reduced the speed limit from 65 to 55.

    The criminal complaint noted that neither road conditions nor alcohol were thought to be a factor in the crash.

    "It was a bad crash," LaRette said. "It's up there with some of the worst one I've seen."

    Western Traffic Control, Inc., and Mountain West Holding Company did not return messages seeking comment, but a spokeswoman for the Knife River Corporation issued a statement that they can not comment on pending litigation, but that their sympathies are with Thompson family.

    "However," the statement read, "we believe our work was performed correctly and was not a factor in this accident."

    Winter is currently waiting on an appeal her attorneys filed to get her case moved to juvenile court. If the appeal is denied, Corrigan said she may go to trial on the homicide charges in September.

    Neighbors of both families say the crash and rumors that followed have been hard on the small community.

    "It's just been a heart breaking thing," said Thompson's neighbor Faye Williams, who got to know Caden when he'd come take her puppy for a walk.

    Williams said she doesn't believe that Thompson would have ever driven so badly as to cause such a crash as Winter's lawsuit claims.

    "She wasn't anybody who would have been driving erratically. Not with her son in the car and her being four months pregnant," Williams said. ""I just feel that that girl is trying to get a way out or something."

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    What the filth?

    I just don't think that your average 16-year-old should be driving. I feel like this would warrant a Darwin award if it wasn't so sad...
    Is this how you want to go down?
    Right before my eyes you are the saddest sight I know
    You're quiet, you never make a sound
    But here inside my mind, you are the loudest one I know
    -Quote, by Evans Blue

    Turn and tremble, be judgemental
    Ignorant to all the symbols
    Blind the face with beauty paste
    Eventually you'll one day know
    -Wasteland, by 10 Years

    I never knew I was able to ever feel this strong
    Take me off your worry list, it'll be better that way
    I'm really fine and there's nothing we haven't talked about
    -The Worry List, by Blue October

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    Nasty... She crashes into the car during a suicide attempt, killing a pregnant woman and her son and consequently sues the family of the people she killed. For what? For getting in the way of a suicide attempt? Such nonsense...

    This is indeed a cheap attempt to distract attention away from her own case and receive a lesser punishment.

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    Quote Quote from Nynrah Ghost View Post
    Nasty... She crashes into the car during a suicide attempt, killing a pregnant woman and her son and consequently sues the family of the people she killed. For what? For getting in the way of a suicide attempt? Such nonsense...

    This is indeed a cheap attempt to distract attention away from her own case and receive a lesser punishment.
    You took the words right out of my mind and mouth and it's also a grave insult to the family of the people she had killed, I hope the judge comes down harder on this sicko for such a grave insult, if I was the judge I's send her up the river for the rest of her life.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    Quote Quote from Kargan3033 View Post
    You took the words right out of my mind and mouth and it's also a grave insult to the family of the people she had killed, I hope the judge comes down harder on this sicko for such a grave insult, if I was the judge I's send her up the river for the rest of her life.
    I kind of see that happening. This is an obvious affront to the justice system (which is a joke anyway, but whatever) that I think the judges are going to be pissed about. This crosses a line.

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    Quote Quote from omegaflux View Post
    I kind of see that happening. This is an obvious affront to the justice system (which is a joke anyway, but whatever) that I think the judges are going to be pissed about. This crosses a line.
    Agreed, I can not help but feel sorry for the family of the dead women and boy, I can't even begin to image what they are going through, it's bad enough that they lost a part of their family but to be sued by the person reponceable for their deaths is just so fucking worng!
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    Quote Quote from Kargan3033 View Post
    Agreed, I can not help but feel sorry for the family of the dead women and boy, I can't even begin to image what they are going through, it's bad enough that they lost a part of their family but to be sued by the person reponceable for their deaths is just so fucking worng!
    No doubt. This is the type of shit that can push a man over the edge. I'm in no way advocating violence, but if someone killed my wife, son, and unborn child, and then had the gall to sue me, I'd probably go King Kong and execute them on the courthouse steps.

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    Quote Quote from omegaflux View Post
    No doubt. This is the type of shit that can push a man over the edge. I'm in no way advocating violence, but if someone killed my wife, son, and unborn child, and then had the gall to sue me, I'd probably go King Kong and execute them on the courthouse steps.
    Amen to that Bro I'd do the same damn thing if I was in that sittuation, after all once you have nothing left to lose life and death that on a whole aspect, I'm amazed that the husband has not blown away this bitch.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    A 16-year old girl raised and educated in USA today? That's your answer.

    This young woman has spent her short life being told she is special, she has boundless rights, she is entitled, she is superior, she can do no wrong and the universe revolves around her wishes and whims. These messages are pumped at her, and all other young females like her, night and day. There is no right and wrong, only what she wants or doesn't want; what works for her (good) and what doesn't work for her (bad).

    So when she does something terrible, it can't be her fault; somebody else must be to blame, and she has the right to compensation for any damage she suffers. She would be totally shocked to be told anything different.

    Justine Winter is just an extreme example of female entitlement in practice. The difference between her actions and those of millions of other females in modern society is simply one of degree.

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    this is a clear portrayal of the dereisic thinking of western wimyn - they are owed by others even when they perpetrate a disaster on the others

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    Re: There's a filthy word for this one!

    Quote Quote from paul parmenter View Post
    A 16-year old girl raised and educated in USA today? That's your answer.

    This young woman has spent her short life being told she is special, she has boundless rights, she is entitled, she is superior, she can do no wrong and the universe revolves around her wishes and whims. These messages are pumped at her, and all other young females like her, night and day. There is no right and wrong, only what she wants or doesn't want; what works for her (good) and what doesn't work for her (bad).

    So when she does something terrible, it can't be her fault; somebody else must be to blame, and she has the right to compensation for any damage she suffers. She would be totally shocked to be told anything different.

    Justine Winter is just an extreme example of female entitlement in practice. The difference between her actions and those of millions of other females in modern society is simply one of degree.
    Well said and so bloody true that it is sick, one of these days these EPs are going to learn the hard way that the univerce does not revolve around them and their petty wants and needs and then we'll see a whole lot of crying and whining at which point they will be told to STFU, suck it and be a man and all that shit.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.


 

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