Thread: Maine Woman Who Killed Husband Won't Go to Prison

I think this is the most important element.

won't have to go to prison for killing the man she said subjected her and their daughter to years of extreme abuse.

Killing = undeniable fact
she said = questionable, not just whether it occured but also the depth to which she is claimed to have endured.

Basically, the guy is an asshole - because she says he was, and she was therefore safe to assume herself as Judge, Jury & executioner. No need to call the FBI and inform them of his alleged bomb makings, no need to call the police and have him arrested, no need to take the child and run to a safe-house...

This is becoming more & more common.

He was abusive? Naturally. Don't get me wrong, I'm not dismissing the possibility of murdered husbands having been abusive, but it doesn't take a genius to deduce that ANY women who murders her husband, regardless of circumstance, is going to play the 'abuse' card, so as to get a reduced - or non-existent, of course - sentence; allow women impunity for spousal murder, on the grounds of 'abuse', then, hey presto, watch as every such woman suddenly plays the 'abuse' card.

Anyway, I don't buy into it, even in genuine cases of abuse; there are plenty of laws and shelters, to protect FEMALE victims of domestic violence. This woman can't possibly claim that she couldn't have gone to the Police, and got him ousted, or checked herself and her kid into a shelter. Or stayed with friends or family, whatever. As much as, regardless of gender, domestic violence is TERRIBLE an issue, it is simply BULLSHIT to claim that killing the offending partner is the only escape; absolute, Grade A fucking BULLSHIT.

And murder, at any rate, is not to be condoned. I was physically bullied for years, but never ONCE would I have considered MURDERING the culprits; beating to a pulp, yes, but not murdering. For Christ's sake, we don't even have the death penalty for child rapists and killers, yet, here we are, with a case of a woman killing her supposedly-abusive husband, being condoned in her behaviour.

Well, she has a vagina, and he had a penis, after all.......

A woman who shot her white supremacist husband!

Yep, she got away with murder!

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Defense lawyer Eric Morse graphically described how James Cummings lived in a sadistic world of darkness and hate where he ridiculed, abused and debased his wife during their decade-long marriage.

He lived with them, did he?

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The killing drew the FBI's attention after Nazi mementos, radioactive materials and instructions on how to build a "dirty bomb" were found in their home.

Which she was TOTALLY AGAINST, naturally...........

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James and Amber Cummings slept in separate bedrooms and kept loaded guns under their pillows.

I take it he FORCED her to keep a gun under hers, naturally.....

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"His hostility toward her and the world was increasing," Morse wrote in a sentencing document.

Get it into your thick head: you didn't KNOW him, idiot.

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The mother then went to her bedroom, where she said she put a gun in her mouth and considered killing herself. Instead, she decided that she had to kill her husband to protect Claira.

Am I the only one who sees this as somewhat far-fetched a story? Wouldn't she have had the kids' best interests at heart, from the onset; rather than trying to kill herself, AND THEN suddenly thinking, "oh, hang on, if I kill myself, my daughter will be left alone with my evil husband; silly me, I never thought of that". Sounds like a case of her doing her utmost to play the victim, to me.

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She took a Colt .45-caliber revolver, walked into her husband's bedroom and fired two bullets into his head while he slept, then fled with her daughter to a neighbor's home and called police.

Would probably have been easier to merely have fled to a neighbour's home, and called the Police, after the very first time he was abusive, but, anyway........

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A psychologist who evaluated Amber Cummings said the turning point for her was James Cummings' growing obsession with child pornography and her "escalating sense of doom." He often talked to her about his sexual attraction to young girls, and she thought that he was becoming obsessed with their own daughter.

I guess the "my husband was a paedo, and a threat to my kid" line could be the prevailing new 'card' to be played........

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Although Cummings was clearly abused by her husband

Because she said so?

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Amber Cummings didn't address the court, but three mental health experts who evaluated her urged Hjelm not to send her to jail.

"Mental health"? Yeah, the usual pass, for women........

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In handing down the sentence, Hjelm said he looked at the case in its entirety and the reasons behind the shooting — not just the few seconds of the shooting itself.

Or maybe the REPORTED case, in its entirety; reported, oh-so-conveniently, by the accused, herself.....

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After Hjelm left the courtroom, about 50 people wearing "Free Amber" stickers burst into applause.

You go, girl!!!!!!

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Outside of the courthouse, Amber Cummings thanked people in the community for their support. Her husband was mentally ill, she said, and she didn't want people to be angry with him.

She didn't want people to be angry with him, BUT SHE KILLED HIM?! Why didn't she try to get him help, if he was merely mentally ill?! Is it April Fool's Day?

Oh, and, of course, I suppose she never knew of his strong views and issues, before she moved in with him; oh no.........

"Her husband was mentally ill, she said, and she didn't want people to be angry with him."

Well she must have bene pretty angry with him to have murdered him. I realise that they do still occasionally execute mentally ill men in some parts off the states but at least they have the decency to give them a trial first and they generally have to have committed very serious crimes (i.e.far more than a bit of alleged domestic violence or being a bit racist or downloading child porn)

I fail to see what the murder victim's political and social ideologies have to do with his being qualified to be gunned down in his sleep by his wife. Why didn't she just leave? She was not huddled in a corner protecting their daughter from the husband in a violent rage. She walked in on a slumbering man and executed him in cold blood, and the state sanctioned it.

Disgraceful.

No marching bands. No honorarium of a couple of million dollars. No keys to the city. Not even a personal call from President Obama.

Her husband was mentally ill, she said, and she didn't want people to be angry with him.

Tragic irony when she claims her husband was a neo nazi, and then kills him for being, as she confesses herself 'mentally ill,' was it not nazi policy to exterminate the mentally ill?

Still, this case is disgusting. This has nothing to do with the 'battered woman' defence; the principle on which that rests is one of learned helplessness i.e. a woman so robbed of personal agency by her husband's abuse that the only way she feels she can escape it is by killing him because she can only envision his abuse ending with his death. This woman did not lack personal agency, the means to defend herself, for Christ’s sake she slept with a loaded gun under her pillow! No, what we have, in this instance, is a vigilante killing. This woman claims her husband was a wicked, sick man, and she took it upon herself to kill him for his alleged wrong-doing. Our society, being made up of PC blinded idiots who have no concept of justice or true ethics, simply see a 'bad man' and a 'good woman' and so they cheer her on; it is to be expected in this political climate. What we should not expect however are sober and learned professional lawmen agreeing with such an emotional appeal to support the acts of an admitted vigilante.

This, to my mind, honestly has less to do with female privilege than it has to do with paedophile hysteria and political correctness. This man's right to life was taken away by a cold-blooded opportunist and because he was a 'neo nazi,' a 'terrorist,' and a 'paedophile,' - the holy trinity irredeemable evils - his right to justice was spat on, and the very idea that reason and impartiality should, in law, triumph over emotion and sensationalism was killed by hatred and hysteria. Of course, there was an element of female privilege in this, as if a man had done the same, he certainly would have gone to jail, but I do not see it as the central issue.

Look at the smirk on that bitch face.. I read about this couple of hours ago and is still seriously piss off. If her husband was a member of my family I think I'm going to hunt her down and kill her with my own bare hand.

""He obsessed over child pornography and instructed her to conduct Internet chats to lure women to Maine, according to court documents.""

sounds like he was multi talented

usually men who are pedophiles have no interest in wimyn at all

that allegation about obsessing over child pornography and obsessing over his own daughter - was the killer ! all system green go after that !!

allegation of DV is a license for wimyn to kill their spouses ( er partners) but child pornography is like a flashing green light to do so especially when his wife alleged his interest in his own daughter - he was a goner at that point

Sickening...

Battered wife syndrome eh? With a gun under your pillow? Just how battered was she? Were there any police reports showing said abuse? I would say not because if he had ever been accused, let alone charged with abuse, all of his firearms would have been conviscated by law.

I also noticed that the Feds found all sorts of things there; bomb makings, nazi stuff... yet, no mention of kiddy porn...

Yet she claims that he was "obsessed over kiddy porn"....

Which leads me to believe that they found none... so why is this claim admissable? If he was so obsessed, why is there no report of finding any? Surely there would be some yes?

So we have two of her claims that seem to be a bit shady, yet she walks for killing him... Standard redirection practice... "I did a naughty, but look at all the naughties HE did!"

WTF is this world coming to?

TMOTS

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Maine Woman Who Killed Husband Won't Go to Prison Her husband was mentally ill, she said...

I ran in to this same mindset in Law School, where radical feminists in class applauded the execution of an alleged 'abuser' while he slept - and then admitted they wanted me done because I dared to point out that Summary Execution without Trial or Conviction is contrary to the Law.

If he was doing these evil things, then reporting it to the police and entering witness protection is always an option - unless perhaps one is afraid he might implicate the accuser of wrongdoing too. After all, Dead Men Don't Rape, or Vote, or Rat Out their Partners.

The 'Death Penalty' (an almost exclusively Male sentence) is supposedly only handed down after serious deliberation and rigorous Constitutional Safeguards - and then for Capital Crimes against which the accused has a Right to defend himself...

Unless of course there is an immediate need for 'Feminist Justice' - like when they are really pissed off at the guy.

Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

Mention this

white supremacist husband

This

growing obsession with child pornography

This

Her husband was mentally ill

And then add this

battered-woman defense

She's as good as free.

She took a Colt .45-caliber revolver, walked into her husband's bedroom and fired two bullets into his head while he slept

This isn't self-defence by any credible stretch, it's a premeditated execution with a ready-made excuse (battered-woman defense).

Alongside the battered-woman defense, the UK has a law of provocation (drafted by Harriet Harman) whereby women can maim and kill men using the excuse of 'provocation,' but men can't legally use it.

This societal acceptance of women as 'judge, jury and executioner' reminds me of slavery where slaveholders were never punished for killing their slaves, as they were seen as less then human.

This societal acceptance of women as 'judge, jury and executioner' reminds me of slavery where slaveholders were never punished for killing their slaves, as they were seen as less then human.

Slave-holders could at least be financially punished for killing slaves. I mean if you killed someone else’s slaves you'd have to pay for them, if you killed your own the Government would not replace the lost revenue, nor its initial cost; you lost money. Women who kill their husbands aren’t even financially punished, because the Government immediately swoops in to replace her husbands income with welfare and other benefits. Not to mention the fact that she is usually the sole beneficiary of his entire estate.