did find this page lurking at the back, obviously added under legal advice just to ensure they are covering themselves from discrimination claims. pretty pathetic....

http://www.famouspeople.org.uk/15

I think the "famousepeople" website Id is to avoid suspicion from partners who check browser history. quite clever.

Note how they promote the "Mens advice line" that's a service which is merely a front for feminists - they really don't care much for male vicitms at all.

Also note on the page about male victims how they minimise the types of abuse men suffer:

"Women who use domestic abuse against men may use both physical and emotional violence such as slapping, hitting, throwing objects and name calling and using insults designed to undermine their masculinity such as calling them a coward."

Also those are true points, but why such a focus on the lesser offences committed by female perpetrators. Is it really basically just a bit of slapping and name calling that women get up to. How exactly do those two acts cause the 35 male deaths from dv we saw in the most recent figures?

Women are far more likely to use weapons yet no mention of stabbing is there? Then there's sexual violence, again something females like to do, not to mention using third parties to assist in the violence.

And of course women are far more likely to attack first - where' the mention of so many men merely using self defence and/or being provoked through incessant abuse?

I would say it is something at least, what they do have regarding men vis a vis support and information is, at least, a token effort and more than I expect from most organizations yet it is clear from their overall attitude that their primary emphasis is upon male to female DV and their empathy primarily goes out to female victims. Still, there is something, which is a start, and we must work on expanding it. I have sent an email to this page suggesting some of the things you fellows mentioned be included in the information; I have criticized their inclusion only of women in regards to pictures and so on, of course I doubt they'll make any changes, but if enough of us wrote in, thanking them for the little they have and suggesting then ways in which it could be improved to provide greater balance to the subject who knows what we might achieve.

No you shouldn't thank this assholes for anything. Scotland is really messed up in terms of the power the man-haters wield.

it isn't a token effort - the Men's Advice Line whcih they love so much is run by gender feminists.

It's actually very sick to have a bunch of man haters pretending to care about male vicitms when it is clear they have very dodgy motives indeed.

I notice their website has had a makeover, but the hateful feminist information is still there:
http://www.mensadviceline.org.uk/pag...e-workers.html

For example:

"Significant numbers of men in the follow up to the Scottish Crime survey who had initially stated that they had been victims of domestic violence said that they had not in fact been victims or not victims of their partner (Gadd, 2001)."

That's right - lots of men are lying and are really abusers - that's their position. I've acutally looked at that survey - it's from the most messed up and deprived city in Western Europe and further still the sample size was 24 I believe! (i.e. statistically it is totally meaningless bullshit). I don't doubt that some men are lying bastards but when it comes to dv that's clearly much more of a female problem yet you never see otehr dv sites mentioning it.

"A significant number of men calling the Men's Advice Line who initially identify as victims change their own identification by the end of the call or provide information about the violence in their relationships which strongly suggests that they are either not a victim or in fact are the perpetrator"

Yes, not only are these male vicitms lying, but they are in fact the abusers themselves. Now I don't doubt this to some extent given that 50% of dv is reciprocal but if it's two people having a punch up then there is no perportrator and no victim either. It's just two violent people fighting. On top of that I expect they were asked incredibly loaded questions in order to come up with their data on teh subject, it would be most interesting to listen in to the calls male vicitms make and compare that to the way your average female gets treated.

On top of the above they are of course competing with legitimate organsiations for funding (ones who actually care about male vicitms and all vicitms for that matter).

Of course under this government, the man haters win every time.