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Mother Gets Life for Adopted Son's Death

By DAVID EGGERT, Associated Press Writer

document.write(getElapsed("20061128T162722Z"));Tue Nov 28, 10:27 AMUPDATED 6 HOURS 34 MINUTES AGO
LANSING, Mich. - A woman who hit her 7-year-old adopted son on the head with a hammer and didn't seek help while the boy slowly died was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison without possibility of parole.
Lisa Holland, 33, was convicted in October of first-degree murder, and the sentence was mandatory.
Ingham County Circuit Judge Paula Manderfield choked back tears _ as she did earlier this month when sentencing Holland's husband, Tim Holland, to 30 to 60 years in prison for his role in the death of Ricky.
"Basically you buried your dog, but you threw away your child," Manderfield told Lisa Holland, citing trial testimony.
The case led to ongoing scrutiny of the state's child protection system and whether workers did enough to protect Ricky and his siblings.
The Hollands initially claimed Ricky had run away from home in July 2005, sparking a nine-day search by 1,700 volunteers and hundreds of law enforcement officers.
In January, Tim Holland led police to the body in a rural area and admitted dumping his son's remains. He told authorities his wife hit Ricky in the head with a hammer while he was away from home.
Holland said nothing as she was sentenced. "Lisa Holland is going to be punished, the jury has spoken. Lisa Holland wishes to maintain her silence," said Mike Nichols, one of her attorneys.
Tim Holland testified that his wife had abused the boy for years, restraining him with ropes in the basement. He said the boy was listless and unable to walk in the last week of his life _ not eating, drinking, walking or talking and smelling like urine.
The Hollands became Ricky's foster parents in 2000 and adopted him in 2003. They also adopted Ricky's three younger siblings and had a child of their own.
http://www.comcast.net/news/national...28/529956.html

Thank you, judge, for finally delivering justice on a female murderer. Both the man and the woman in this couple are scum of the earth.


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Mother Gets Life for Adopted Son's Death

By DAVID EGGERT, Associated Press Writer

document.write(getElapsed("20061128T162722Z"));Tue Nov 28, 10:27 AMUPDATED 6 HOURS 34 MINUTES AGO
LANSING, Mich. - A woman who hit her 7-year-old adopted son on the head with a hammer and didn't seek help while the boy slowly died was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison without possibility of parole.
Lisa Holland, 33, was convicted in October of first-degree murder, and the sentence was mandatory.
Ingham County Circuit Judge Paula Manderfield choked back tears _ as she did earlier this month when sentencing Holland's husband, Tim Holland, to 30 to 60 years in prison for his role in the death of Ricky.
"Basically you buried your dog, but you threw away your child," Manderfield told Lisa Holland, citing trial testimony.
The case led to ongoing scrutiny of the state's child protection system and whether workers did enough to protect Ricky and his siblings.
The Hollands initially claimed Ricky had run away from home in July 2005, sparking a nine-day search by 1,700 volunteers and hundreds of law enforcement officers.
In January, Tim Holland led police to the body in a rural area and admitted dumping his son's remains. He told authorities his wife hit Ricky in the head with a hammer while he was away from home.
Holland said nothing as she was sentenced. "Lisa Holland is going to be punished, the jury has spoken. Lisa Holland wishes to maintain her silence," said Mike Nichols, one of her attorneys.
Tim Holland testified that his wife had abused the boy for years, restraining him with ropes in the basement. He said the boy was listless and unable to walk in the last week of his life _ not eating, drinking, walking or talking and smelling like urine.
The Hollands became Ricky's foster parents in 2000 and adopted him in 2003. They also adopted Ricky's three younger siblings and had a child of their own.
http://www.comcast.net/news/national...28/529956.html

Thank you, judge, for finally delivering justice on a female murderer. Both the man and the woman in this couple are scum of the earth.


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Mother Gets Life for Adopted Son's Death

By DAVID EGGERT, Associated Press Writer

document.write(getElapsed("20061128T162722Z"));Tue Nov 28, 10:27 AMUPDATED 6 HOURS 34 MINUTES AGO
LANSING, Mich. - A woman who hit her 7-year-old adopted son on the head with a hammer and didn't seek help while the boy slowly died was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison without possibility of parole.
Lisa Holland, 33, was convicted in October of first-degree murder, and the sentence was mandatory.
Ingham County Circuit Judge Paula Manderfield choked back tears _ as she did earlier this month when sentencing Holland's husband, Tim Holland, to 30 to 60 years in prison for his role in the death of Ricky.
"Basically you buried your dog, but you threw away your child," Manderfield told Lisa Holland, citing trial testimony.
The case led to ongoing scrutiny of the state's child protection system and whether workers did enough to protect Ricky and his siblings.
The Hollands initially claimed Ricky had run away from home in July 2005, sparking a nine-day search by 1,700 volunteers and hundreds of law enforcement officers.
In January, Tim Holland led police to the body in a rural area and admitted dumping his son's remains. He told authorities his wife hit Ricky in the head with a hammer while he was away from home.
Holland said nothing as she was sentenced. "Lisa Holland is going to be punished, the jury has spoken. Lisa Holland wishes to maintain her silence," said Mike Nichols, one of her attorneys.
Tim Holland testified that his wife had abused the boy for years, restraining him with ropes in the basement. He said the boy was listless and unable to walk in the last week of his life _ not eating, drinking, walking or talking and smelling like urine.
The Hollands became Ricky's foster parents in 2000 and adopted him in 2003. They also adopted Ricky's three younger siblings and had a child of their own.
http://www.comcast.net/news/national...28/529956.html

Thank you, judge, for finally delivering justice on a female murderer. Both the man and the woman in this couple are scum of the earth.


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Yes, this is justice. What she did was extremely cruel.

I think this thread should be in the Abuse - DV subforum.



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Yes, this is justice. What she did was extremely cruel.

I think this thread should be in the Abuse - DV subforum.



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Yes, this is justice. What she did was extremely cruel.

I think this thread should be in the Abuse - DV subforum.


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A woman hit her 7-year-old adopted son on the head with a hammer and didn't seek help while the boy slowly died
Quote:
his wife had abused the boy for years, restraining him with ropes in the basement. He said the boy was listless and unable to walk in the last week of his life _ not eating, drinking, walking or talking and smelling like urine.
Sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole. No arguments there. Let's hope this sentencing is a growing trend and not an isolated case.


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He told authorities his wife hit Ricky in the head with a hammer while he was away from home.
Up to that point he hadn't been party to the murder. However, he had been guilty of ignoring the abuse his wife inflicted on the boy for a number of years. Did I say Boy! My, what a recurring theme that is with abusive mothers.

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Tim Holland led police to the body in a rural area and admitted dumping his son's remains.
How frequently does this occur, the girlfriend or wife is abusive towards the child/ren and the male is complicit in his silence, or in this case participating in covering up the murder. I don't think as many women would remain silent.

Do men (wrongly) value their wives/girlfriends more than their own children?

This might explain why so many men remain silent. Women most certainly do not see their husbands/boyfriends as more important than their children, hence why they aren't prepared to cover up their crime/s (unless there's something personally to be gained from doing so).

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Tim Holland, sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison for his role in the death of Ricky.
This guy should definitely serve some serious prison time. However, I can recall 50 mothers who have murdered their child/ren who collectively haven't served 30 to 60 years in prison. Telling isn't it!



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A woman hit her 7-year-old adopted son on the head with a hammer and didn't seek help while the boy slowly died
Quote:
his wife had abused the boy for years, restraining him with ropes in the basement. He said the boy was listless and unable to walk in the last week of his life _ not eating, drinking, walking or talking and smelling like urine.
Sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole. No arguments there. Let's hope this sentencing is a growing trend and not an isolated case.


Quote:
He told authorities his wife hit Ricky in the head with a hammer while he was away from home.
Up to that point he hadn't been party to the murder. However, he had been guilty of ignoring the abuse his wife inflicted on the boy for a number of years. Did I say Boy! My, what a recurring theme that is with abusive mothers.

Quote:
Tim Holland led police to the body in a rural area and admitted dumping his son's remains.
How frequently does this occur, the girlfriend or wife is abusive towards the child/ren and the male is complicit in his silence, or in this case participating in covering up the murder. I don't think as many women would remain silent.

Do men (wrongly) value their wives/girlfriends more than their own children?

This might explain why so many men remain silent. Women most certainly do not see their husbands/boyfriends as more important than their children, hence why they aren't prepared to cover up their crime/s (unless there's something personally to be gained from doing so).

Quote:
Tim Holland, sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison for his role in the death of Ricky.
This guy should definitely serve some serious prison time. However, I can recall 50 mothers who have murdered their child/ren who collectively haven't served 30 to 60 years in prison. Telling isn't it!



"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
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Quote:
A woman hit her 7-year-old adopted son on the head with a hammer and didn't seek help while the boy slowly died
Quote:
his wife had abused the boy for years, restraining him with ropes in the basement. He said the boy was listless and unable to walk in the last week of his life _ not eating, drinking, walking or talking and smelling like urine.
Sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole. No arguments there. Let's hope this sentencing is a growing trend and not an isolated case.


Quote:
He told authorities his wife hit Ricky in the head with a hammer while he was away from home.
Up to that point he hadn't been party to the murder. However, he had been guilty of ignoring the abuse his wife inflicted on the boy for a number of years. Did I say Boy! My, what a recurring theme that is with abusive mothers.

Quote:
Tim Holland led police to the body in a rural area and admitted dumping his son's remains.
How frequently does this occur, the girlfriend or wife is abusive towards the child/ren and the male is complicit in his silence, or in this case participating in covering up the murder. I don't think as many women would remain silent.

Do men (wrongly) value their wives/girlfriends more than their own children?

This might explain why so many men remain silent. Women most certainly do not see their husbands/boyfriends as more important than their children, hence why they aren't prepared to cover up their crime/s (unless there's something personally to be gained from doing so).

Quote:
Tim Holland, sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison for his role in the death of Ricky.
This guy should definitely serve some serious prison time. However, I can recall 50 mothers who have murdered their child/ren who collectively haven't served 30 to 60 years in prison. Telling isn't it!


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Another similar case was mother putting her baby in a microwave. Now how sick is that?!

Notice the other case they mention at the end:

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In 2000, a Virginia woman was sentenced to five years in prison for killing her month-old son in a microwave oven.
5 YEARS?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!



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Re: About Damn Time Already

Another similar case was mother putting her baby in a microwave. Now how sick is that?!

Notice the other case they mention at the end:

Quote:
In 2000, a Virginia woman was sentenced to five years in prison for killing her month-old son in a microwave oven.
5 YEARS?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!



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