I am quite OK with chaps going their own way, Timmo, but what of it? Are you using that term as a blanket excuse for behaviour that can damage the MRM?

There are consequences to stoopid behaviour if that behaviour is chosen. I have no problem with chaps acting like arses, especially a long way from me, and adolescents (foolishness is expected from teenage boys) but I can understand when they get hammered for it. 'Going their own way' isn't a licence to evade natural consequences, nor behave badly, nor should it be an excuse one can sheet home to the MRM. I don't want to be associated with arseholes, thanks. One has to mop up after them.

If the MRM is to gain any sort of credible reputation it has to distance itself from grossness. Mature adult men should have boxed these boys ears a long time ago.

And, as a senior member of the MRM with a solid reputation, you should know that.