I have always liked JD's take on the movement, he has definately got a lot of dedication but I am always wary of the directions taken by the mainstream MRM (the moderates)..

I never think of JD as a moderate, I hope they dont corrupt his libertarian views!

The forum-based movement is a different kettle of fish to the "real life" movement, this forum is exceptional in that it is open to the real-life input, but I am dissapointed with the attitude of many of the "big" movements in that they don't avail themselves of the opportunities to reach out to folk in the forums..

What we seem to have is folk in the forum-based movement trying to reach out to the big dicks, which is odd, because the impotence of those big dicks is legendary!