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Originally Posted by Tyrael  We aren't asking feminists, but the general populace and people in politics. |
Who have almost all been brainwashed into thinking like feminists have shown them..
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Well a lot of men of the old guard are like that, but in general it's also cause a lot of men simply don't voice their grievances and issues out in the public.
Many guys are also waiting for something to clearly take the lead in this respect that they can support. There's currently no big organization or powerful person (group) with political influence who publicly stands up for men's rights.
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No one gets "rights" without someone else providing them..
Men provide the rights for women.. They are creating the problems we witness.. They provide these rights by ceding their own rights.. accepting slavery in effect, when the actually DONT NEED TO!!
Its like this..
Men work and create wealth and tax revenues..
They pay 50% of their earnings to the state, to provide "rights" which mostly go to either the whole population, or specifically to women in order to uphold their "rights".. How much goes to men specifically?
Bugger all!!
Now, in order to redress this using the state, you are going to have to up that 50%.. Lets say, to well, pick a number.. 50% + N%
Then you will find that much of "mens rights" clashes with "womens rights"..
Suddenly, that 50% + N% becomes even bigger..
Men would probably work less, incentives reduced, as they dont gain from work anymore, men do the real productive work in society, women do mostly "made up" work that is often state subsidised, practically everything to do with kids is subsidised by the state in some way..
The state would have to support TWO part time working parents, not just one..
By taking the decision making responsibilty off men and handing it to the state, men are more enslaved..
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feminist state will agree to the sort of demands (if they would ever consider them in the first place!) that agree with the feminists..
So, men would be neutered again..
I dont want equality. I want to head my family. Because the male headed family WORKS!!!! I dont want the state to tell me HOW i should run my family to their
feminist friendly standards..
By getting the state out, such a natural order would return..
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That's also possible, but this would be more straight forward.
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It would be more agreable to the feminists for men to ask for such..
But men wont get it..
And if they do..
"Beware what you ask for, you may just get it and find out the cost of it later!!"
Men certainly dont make their grievances known, and for that, they are their own worst enemies, but even worse, by continually ENGAGING WITH THE SYSTEM THAT ABUSES THEM, they damned well validate it and prop it up at the same time as they moan about it!!
Men are incredibly selfish and greedy, from what I have seen, which is why men who have the ability to do anything about it, tend to take precisely ZERO interest, and actually in fact, massively support the feminazi state..
The mens issues are far more about CLASS WAR than gender war..